elevator.shining.jpgDave’s here to answer your questions every Wednesday, so send them to him at tenant@sfappeal.com, here’s what to make sure to include in your letter.

My wife and I have been living in a rent controlled one bedroom in a large five story apartment building in downtown SF for about six years now. It is an old building (I believe it was built in the 1920s) but in fairly good shape, except for the elevator. It is one of those classic ‘otis’ elevators that never seems to work.

In the six plus years I’ve lived here, the building has changed hands numerous times (from CitiApartments, to Laramar and now to Prado). Through all these changes of ownership, one thing has remained constant, the lack of attention to tenant needs (the exterior of our windows haven’t been cleaned since before I moved in, etc).

Anyway, needless to say, having an elevator frequently out of order is a huge hassle. Fortunately for us, we are healthy and 30 years old, so climbing four flights of stairs isn’t a huge burden. However, there are plenty of senior citizens living in the building and this I’m sure is a serious issue for them.

In the management’s defense, they do have people that come and try to repair the elevator but their ‘band-aid’ repair jobs rarely last more than two or three weeks. The last time they were here was Friday morning for repairs.

By Friday night, there was an actual fire caused by the elevator motor and a fire extinguisher had to be used to extinguish the fire. The elevator hasn’t been working ever since. My estimate is that the elevator is down about four or five days a month on average for the past several years. Starting this month we are starting to record the exact dates of malfunction.

My main question to you is how do we get our elevator fixed properly, once and for all? And secondly, doesn’t all of this inconvenience entitle us to a decrease in rent?

Unfortunately, I can’t provide an easy solution to this issue because, absent an injunction from the court, the landlords can’t be forced to properly fix the elevator once and for all. Elevators are very expensive to repair and/or replace. Most landlords would rather use a duct tape and bubblegum approach rather than spend the dough to do the job correctly.

Given your longstanding complaints, I assume that you have informed the owners about the elevator, in writing, many times. If you haven’t done so, begin to write letters to the management company each time the elevator is out of service.

You should also encourage your neighbors, especially those who are most vulnerable, to document their complaints in the same manner.

The next time the elevator breaks, call a Housing Inspector from the Department of Building Inspection (DBI) to issue a notice of violation. You and your neighbors should be prepared to show the inspector any other potential violations–leaking roof and windows; cracks and holes in the walls; peeling paint; security issues; heating issues, etc.

When you have all of your evidence together you can and should file a petition for substantial decreases in housing services at the Rent Board. If you prevail, you will be entitled to a reduction in rent that may remain permanent until the elevator is fixed.

I think that you should call the City Attorney’s office, (415) 554-4700, to alert them about the ongoing issue with the elevator. As you said, this is a serious safety issue, especially for senior citizens trapped on upper floors. Given the past litigation and settlement with CitiApartments, the City Attorney may also be interested to understand that things haven’t changed that dramatically for many of the Lembis’ former tenants.

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  • Josh

    Star Elevator, I believe, has staff who’ve been handling D.C. elevators for three generations.
    The Prado Group knows their number, but if they say they don’t, refer them back to the front desk of Laramar to get it. This is nuts: document it, get a rent reduction from the rent board and then have all the other tenants do the same. Once you’ve shown them it can be done, the rent board has a ‘group petition’ form; it’s easiest to get people to go for the rent reduction, once you have one.

  • Josh

    Star Elevator, I believe, has staff who’ve been handling D.C. elevators for three generations.
    The Prado Group knows their number, but if they say they don’t, refer them back to the front desk of Laramar to get it. This is nuts: document it, get a rent reduction from the rent board and then have all the other tenants do the same. Once you’ve shown them it can be done, the rent board has a ‘group petition’ form; it’s easiest to get people to go for the rent reduction, once you have one.

  • Josh

    Star Elevator, I believe, has staff who’ve been handling D.C. elevators for three generations.
    The Prado Group knows their number, but if they say they don’t, refer them back to the front desk of Laramar to get it.

    This is nuts: document it, get a rent reduction from the rent board and then have all the other tenants do the same. Once you’ve shown them it can be done, the rent board has a ‘group petition’ form; it’s easiest to get people to go for the rent reduction, once you have one.

    Since there was a fire, if the elevator is still out of service, call the fire Marshall, or your local fire department, ask for their report. Then call OSHA, they have a state agent who will come out immediately. All of these agencies have the power to fine the landlords.

  • Josh

    Star Elevator, I believe, has staff who’ve been handling D.C. elevators for three generations.
    The Prado Group knows their number, but if they say they don’t, refer them back to the front desk of Laramar to get it.

    This is nuts: document it, get a rent reduction from the rent board and then have all the other tenants do the same. Once you’ve shown them it can be done, the rent board has a ‘group petition’ form; it’s easiest to get people to go for the rent reduction, once you have one.

    Since there was a fire, if the elevator is still out of service, call the fire Marshall, or your local fire department, ask for their report. Then call OSHA, they have a state agent who will come out immediately. All of these agencies have the power to fine the landlords.

  • Al

    In 2011, a fire caused by an old elevator motor destroyed the Sequoia Building at 2441 Haste St in Berkeley. It’s a serious issue.

  • Al

    In 2011, a fire caused by an old elevator motor destroyed the Sequoia Building at 2441 Haste St in Berkeley. It’s a serious issue.

  • BushyHyde

    Be careful what you wish for. In my building they rebuilt the elevator then passed on the cost to the tenants. Will be paying for that new elevator $20 a month for 10 years, and I live on the second floor and never use it!

  • BushyHyde

    Be careful what you wish for. In my building they rebuilt the elevator then passed on the cost to the tenants. Will be paying for that new elevator $20 a month for 10 years, and I live on the second floor and never use it!

  • BushyHyde

    Be careful what you wish for. In my building they rebuilt the elevator then passed on the cost to the tenants. Will be paying for that new elevator $20 a month for 10 years, and I live on the second floor and never use it!

  • BushyHyde

    Be careful what you wish for. In my building they rebuilt the elevator then passed on the cost to the tenants. Will be paying for that new elevator $20 a month for 10 years, and I live on the second floor and never use it!