Ask The Appeal: Why Doesn't BART Have A "Bike Car" During Peak Hours?
BART has very specific rules about when and where bikes are allowed on their trains. As they asked on Mission Mission, why doesn't BART...
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Akit said:
October 14, 2009 2:05 PM
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I've seen their "demonstration cars" and I'm impressed by some of their improvements, but one problem remains; they modified the bicycle spot, but the big label/sticker says "bicycle priority area" when priority should always be wheelchair passengers first (ADA violation?).
John Murphy said:
October 14, 2009 5:10 PM
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Caltrain's bike cars are bike priority areas. Not a violation because there is also a wheelchair priority area. BART has wheelchair priority areas so they are in compliance even if they have a bike priority area. Note that BART didn't say "We can't have a bike car because that would be an ADA violation".
Taken to the extreme, they need to rip out the seats because wheelchairs can't go there.
Ob on topic - It sucks that you can't take bike on BART at rush hour but given the capacity constraints of the system, it makes sense. I don't get the "heavy rail" comment because they are both heavy rail, the difference is that BART goes from big parking garages direct to the urban core in SF/OAK/Berkeley, Caltrain dots the little downtowns of the peninsula, but the jobs are 2-3 miles away from the stations and down there the mass transit sucks. A bike is much more valuable (on both ends) for a Caltrain commuter, so much so that Caltrain is really propping up their ridership by offering the service. Even the 4/K station in SF is not really that close to the job center.
Fred said:
October 14, 2009 11:04 PM
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It certainly has not been my experience that CalTrain stops longer at stations than does BART. They both leave after about 20 seconds. Am I wrong?
Akit replied to comment from John Murphy
October 15, 2009 12:39 PM
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For BART's demo cars that are in service, the open spots are clearly designated as the bike spots, and there's nothing noting wheelchairs. Doesn't this seem a little odd?
miketopher said:
June 24, 2011 10:01 PM
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Im not familiar with the public transportation system.. but i knew that bikes were allowed on bart, never did i think there would be a specific time that they were not..
i finally got a job after well over a year of small worthless gigs. never falling in the early hours.. so now i got a job early in the morning.. and appearantly i cant work anymore because i have no way to get there.. because i cant take my bike and bart..
thanks a lot to the ass hole who who thought of this one.
its not like my bike is a damn car that takes up space, its impossible to not be able and handle it without getting in peoples way .. no more than other bodys are already in the way.
yet another obstacle im unable to even attempt to get over.
screw you
sfchop said:
November 17, 2011 9:17 PM
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I commute used to commute via BART EVERY morning and can tell BART officials flat out: add 2 bike cars to the Fremont train. It's ALWAYS 8 cars.
Take people to West Oakland and then the bike restrictions are lifted for ALL trains in the Easy Bay. I need the Richmond line, which is crowded in rush hour from SF, but the Fremont always has space.
Afternoon rush hour to SF from the East Bay is a bit more challenging. Just try a bike only car... it will work.
I still think that BART can work this out. I call BS on them.
I would be a permanent daily rider if they could just sort this out. As it stands now, I'm 3 connections and 1.5hrs on public transit to my job in Berkeley from SF Bernal Heights. It's 20 minutes and 14 miles by car. There's a reason I drive 95% of the time...